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Rotaretilbo
Dúnadan
(id: Brandon Rebuga)
posted 07-21-08 07:47 PM EDT (US)         
This is our Mafia Calender. We use this to
schedule and maintain order in all of these online forum
games. YOU'VE NEVER HEARD OF MAFIA??? CLICK HERE!

Current Moderators:

* Rotaretilbo *
Aeneas2
MR ANCALAGON
Filmdirector 2
Pulkit
EnemyofJupitor
Tarquinius
steace43
Blood Phoenix
MightyFireball
Atzy
Alex
Jax
Arvedui
Catabre
GoSailing
Nacht Jaeger
Calenraug
A Banned User
Ashrzr
Friend of Old
Blatant7
The Best Guest
Ninja Jedi

* Head moderator

These are the people who host the games. They have the
important role of making the games fun. If you would like
to host a mafia, post your ideas in the thread below. You
must meet the criteria of participating in at least 2 games
(games at any Heaven count towards this requirement).




Mafia Queue
There are two lines - one for people wanting to run full mafia games (no restrictions) and one for people running Mini-Mafia. Mini Mafia has a maximum of 12 players.

Full Size Games Queue
  • Return of the King Mafia - Friend of Old
  • Prince Caspian Mafia - Nacht Jaeger
  • Wheel of Time Mafia - Calenraug
  • Al Capone Mafia - A Banned User
  • ???? Mafia - Alex
  • Pulp Fiction Mafia - Ashrzr
  • Eagle Mafia - EnemyofJupitor
  • Arvedui Mafia - Arvedui
  • BfME2H Mafia - Catabre


Mini Mafia Queue
  • Silmarillion Mafia - Jax
  • Lego Star Wars Mafia - Catabre
  • Dwarven Warfare Mafia - The Best Guest
  • No Country For Old Men Mafia - Ashrzr and A Banned User
  • ???? Mafia - Blatant7
  • Pokemon Mafia - Ninja Jedi
  • ???? Mafia - A Banned User



Game Ideas


On Probation


Complete games


Incomplete games:


Hall of Fame
  • Rotaretilbo: 4
  • Arvedui: 3
  • Friend of Old: 3
  • A Banned User: 2
  • Culverin: 2
  • EnemyofJupitor: 2
  • GoSailing: 2
  • Hnossa: 2
  • MightyFireball: 2
  • Sir Hugh: 2
  • The Reduszebrus: 2
  • Aeneas2: 1
  • Ashrzr: 1
  • Blatant7: 1
  • Catabre: 1
  • GandalfDaGraay: 1
  • Kester: 1
  • Mr Master Chief: 1
  • Nacht Jaeger: 1
  • Pulkit: 1
  • Smeagolfan24: 1
  • The Cheese Man: 1
  • The Wanderer: 1
  • TimmySpok: 1




Operational Policy
  • There can never be two or more active Mafia signup threads at the same time.

  • The next person in line can't start their game until the current game is over or the moderator of the current game grants his permission in this thread.

  • A moderator can, at any time, choose to move back an indefinite number of spaces in the queue if they don't want to run their game yet.

  • If a moderator feels that there is a demand for a new Mafia game not being met by the moderator whose turn is next, he may declare intent to skip to the top of the queue to fill the void. However, this declaration must stand for a week without any progress from the other moderator before it can be acted upon.

  • If a moderator is at the top of his queue, and he does not show any signs of starting his game, a period of one week will be allowed to elapse, then he will be moved down one rank, and the next person will have an opportunity to go.

  • Moderators may only be in each queue once at any one time. They are granted additional spots for supportive cohosting.

  • If the primary host of a mafia backs out, the game is removed from the queue, regardless of the presence of a supportive cohost. However, if one of two equal cohosts backs out, the other can maintain the spot on the queue, if they so choose.

  • The moderator is a god. If the moderator makes a mistake, it is your mistake, so inform him that he might correct it for you.

  • Moderators may choose to allow users otherwise probated to participate in their mafias.

  • Use this thread to propose Mafia games to be run. They do not have to be moderated by you, you can suggest games for others to run. If a moderator so chooses, that moderator can host the theme. When this occurs, the theme will be crossed out of the suggestion area and placed in the queue.



    Because this is a very "long term" thread, it may expire. You should look for a moderator to top the thread if that happens - email them about it.

    "Also, I'm no clearer on what WIFOM is really, although I gather it's something to do with Thymole being gay..." -Sassenach
    "I don't lie in my claims and I don't intend to." -WeeMicky
    "OH MY GOD A DINOSAUR" -Peter Fallon

    [This message has been edited by Rotaretilbo (edited 03-09-2013 @ 03:48 AM).]

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    A Banned User
    Battle of the Forums EEH winning team
    posted 05-08-09 01:27 PM EDT (US)     201 / 218       
    The problem with Hamlet was that as on day 1, it was 5 town v 4 mafia. So to lynch scum it would require every single town player to have placed a vote on the scum. Where as all scum needed was town to place on single vote on another townie, and high ho victory. Plus we've been made aware Catabre isn't that great at defending himself when town. Also, the town thought that if Catabre was town, then they will have a confirmed scum tommorow, but of course this couldn't happen, as unless every single town voted a mafia on day 1, they immediatly lost. And then of course there was the problem of a town member becoming a serial killer... Meaning that potentially two town could be killed in once night, and even if they'd successfully lynched day 1 they'd still lose.

    Lets also not forget the fact that town had roles like a faith insane cop and an unstable doctor/roleblocker, which would unlikely help them, if the cop was getting innocents on sucm, and guiltys on townies. Again all it took was the insane cop to investigate town, get guilty, the townie would be lynched and mafia win. Even though town did no wrong by following a guilty result.

    "Banned is a beautiful, beautiful man. Visit BfME2H, EEH, or DoFH if you want to see more of this wonder." - Blatant
    "I'VE ABANDONED MY CHILD" - Ashrzr defending himself from paedophile charges.

    Scenario designer for Empire Earth and Empire Creations
    1st July 1916, The Somme (4.6), The Long Road to France (4.8) and A Place Called Waterloo (4.8)
    President of EEH, alongside Ashrzr (FILM DUDE!)

    [This message has been edited by A Banned User (edited 05-08-2009 @ 01:32 PM).]

    Ashrzr
    Battle of the Forums EEH winning team
    (id: normandy887)
    posted 05-08-09 02:00 PM EDT (US)     202 / 218       
    The problem with Hamlet was that as on day 1, it was 5 town v 4 mafia. So to lynch scum it would require every single town player to have placed a vote on the scum. Where as all scum needed was town to place on single vote on another townie, and high ho victory. Plus we've been made aware Catabre isn't that great at defending himself when town. Also, the town thought that if Catabre was town, then they will have a confirmed scum tommorow, but of course this couldn't happen, as unless every single town voted a mafia on day 1, they immediatly lost. And then of course there was the problem of a town member becoming a serial killer... Meaning that potentially two town could be killed in once night, and even if they'd successfully lynched day 1 they'd still lose.
    With the votes you're right but keep in mind one of the townies was a noble, so that's basically 6v4. And since Julius is such a good player he's a high target for scum, so the mafia was likely to target him (but didn't for some reason) and he was stone, so it would be 6v4, with one of the townies being noble, so the town had 7 votes at their disposal and the mafia only had 4, and 2 of the people in the mafia are generally inactive in the mafias they play in. I recall Rot roleblocking Julius Night 0, so if the mafia did not have a roleblock, they likely would've just killed him instead, hence I say the mistake was giving the mafia a roleblock ability. There's also the watcher which is one of the prime roles in finding scum, and in this hypothetical case if you wouldn't have died you would've been a great help in finding the scum. The mafia basically made a really lucky shot when they killed you Night 0, for that reason and triggering Laertes into turning into an SK.
    Lets also not forget the fact that town had roles like a faith insane cop and an unstable doctor/roleblocker, which would unlikely help them, if the cop was getting innocents on sucm, and guiltys on townies. Again all it took was the insane cop to investigate town, get guilty, the townie would be lynched and mafia win. Even though town did no wrong by following a guilty result.
    Yeah that's when trying to make the mafia true to the story gets in the way of making the game balanced.

    Though, Julius's role was balanced out by making him stone and a one-shot vigilante, which both ended up coming in handy IIRC, at least the one-shot vigilante did when he used it on the godfather. And not to mention his insane factor was only accounted for 50% of the time. Sargon's role could also be considered balanced by being masons with Julius who was a cop, though having a 50% chance of being insane, he was still a cop nonetheless.

    And the fact that there was a role cop also balanced out Julius' partially invalid results.

    "Cue gang-rape music!" - Rotaretilbo
    "What the f*** is gang-rape music?" - Cheddar Chap
    A Banned User
    Battle of the Forums EEH winning team
    posted 05-08-09 03:21 PM EDT (US)     203 / 218       
    With the votes you're right but keep in mind one of the townies was a noble, so that's basically 6v4. And since Julius is such a good player he's a high target for scum, so the mafia was likely to target him (but didn't for some reason) and he was stone, so it would be 6v4, with one of the townies being noble, so the town had 7 votes at their disposal and the mafia only had 4, and 2 of the people in the mafia are generally inactive in the mafias they play in.
    If that was the outcome on day 1 then that is the only scenario where it's balanced. But that completely relies on the mafia trying to kill Julius and the noble not being killed. The towns win should not be decicded upon night 0, depending upon who the mafia choose to kill. It's fairly obvious to conclude that:
    Mafia attacks Julius - Town has slight chance of winning
    Mafia attacks Me, the Noble, or who ever else turns Brits role into a SK - No chance of winning.
    Mafia attack anybody else - Town has tiny chance of winning.
    There's also the watcher which is one of the prime roles in finding scum, and in this hypothetical case if you wouldn't have died you would've been a great help in finding the scum.
    Only if I targeted Arvy. So basically a 1/11 chance of catching scum. Rot could claim roleblocker and be confirmed on this and the goons could claim vannila, a role which doesn't make no action, forgot to send an action in, or a role that shouldn't make an action on night 0.
    And the fact that there was a role cop also balanced out Julius' partially invalid results.
    Not really. It's always going to be the case when on day 1 a lynch would be made based on a cop who got a guilty result, not a role cops result. And it's pretty clear Hamlet was going to be won or lost on the mafias choice of kill on night 0, because even if the town lynched true on day 1, they could have still lost:

    Night 0 Townie dies.
    Day 1 Mafia lynched
    Night 1 Townie dies (And this is being generous as 2 tonwies could easily die this night due to the SK)
    Day 2 Serial killer lynched
    Night 2 Townie dies.
    Mafia now out number 3 v 2 and they win.

    And it doesn't have to play out in this exact situation either. How about

    Night 0: 1 Townie dies
    Day 1: Mafia lynched
    Night: 1 Townie dies
    Day 2: Mafia lynched
    Night 2: 1 Townie and Mafia killed
    Day 3 Mafia Lynched
    Night 3 Townie killed
    Day 4 Last townie endgamed, SK wins.

    Basically the town will be punished for lynching scum everytime. And the last one even includes a mafia being killed at night, but town still losing.
    Though, Julius's role was balanced out by making him stone and a one-shot vigilante
    Not really because this fails to completely avoid the fact that if Julius gets guilty night 0, it's game over town. And all the one shot viiglante was ever going to do, was minimize 4 mafia winning, down to 3, because about the time Julius should be using it, night 1 at the very very earliest, it's highly likely town have already lost by this point.

    "Banned is a beautiful, beautiful man. Visit BfME2H, EEH, or DoFH if you want to see more of this wonder." - Blatant
    "I'VE ABANDONED MY CHILD" - Ashrzr defending himself from paedophile charges.

    Scenario designer for Empire Earth and Empire Creations
    1st July 1916, The Somme (4.6), The Long Road to France (4.8) and A Place Called Waterloo (4.8)
    President of EEH, alongside Ashrzr (FILM DUDE!)
    Rotaretilbo
    Dúnadan
    (id: Brandon Rebuga)
    posted 05-08-09 03:47 PM EDT (US)     204 / 218       
    It really does. Scum are happy to lynch whoever isn't with them and get to night, as quickly as possible. The amount of lynch-happy people is directly related to the number of scum, regardless of whether they're deliberately working together.

    This is exactly what I mean when I say you underestimate the power of numbers.

    Obviously it would have been worse if the scum had all been working together (see Hamlet mafia). But making them separate doesn't automatically make everything fine.
    Yes, but what you miss is that those lynch-happy people are just as likely to push for a lynch against scum as they are town. In fact, they are more likely to push for a lynch against scum than town, since that will get them credit with the town.

    "Also, I'm no clearer on what WIFOM is really, although I gather it's something to do with Thymole being gay..." -Sassenach
    "I don't lie in my claims and I don't intend to." -WeeMicky
    "OH MY GOD A DINOSAUR" -Peter Fallon
    Julius999
    Imposter
    posted 05-08-09 03:59 PM EDT (US)     205 / 218       
    I've taken that into account. Remember, it was a specific feature (and not a bad one) that scum had more confirmable roles than the town. Then remember that there were two pairs of scum, who would obviously be unwilling to lynch their partner. It was always much more likely that the ones getting lynched would be the poor vulnerable impossible-to-test townies with no one sticking up for them.

    The more lynch-happy people there are, the tougher it is for the town. Because they're far more likely to suffer than competing scum factions.
    In fact, they are more likely to push for a lynch against scum than town
    Sure, provided they know who the other scum are. And are willing to risk getting prioritised for killing by the other scum's surviving partner.

    1010011010
    [ All_That_Glitters | Pretty_Town_Contest | Other_AoK_Designs | AoE_Designs ]
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    Julius999
    Imposter
    posted 05-08-09 04:12 PM EDT (US)     206 / 218       
    If I had been making balance suggestions about the setup before it began, here's what I would have proposed:

    Mafia Godfather Kill Giver [Good role, roleblocking moved to a goon]
    Mafia Doctor [doesn't protect from lynches]
    Mafia Roleblocker [Spreads the mafia's power a bit]

    Stone Serial Killer Tracker* [I have no complaints about my role]

    Bodyguard [The Self-Redirector idea doesn't appeal to me much, this is an alternative]
    Sacrificial Doc [Decent idea]
    Post Restricted Questioning Required One Shot Lie Detector [Extra limitation]
    Hat Salesman = Anti-Roleblocker [More useful, but hardly over-powered]
    Insane Cop
    Naive Cop
    Paranoid Cop [Instead of Random]
    Genius

    *Might possibly make it so they could kill and track on the same night. Otherwise the tracking ability was a bit irrelevant. Not sure.


    That would have worked better in my opinion.

    1010011010
    [ All_That_Glitters | Pretty_Town_Contest | Other_AoK_Designs | AoE_Designs ]
    Member of Stormwind Studios

    [This message has been edited by Julius999 (edited 05-08-2009 @ 04:12 PM).]

    Ashrzr
    Battle of the Forums EEH winning team
    (id: normandy887)
    posted 05-08-09 04:32 PM EDT (US)     207 / 218       
    Only if I targeted Arvy.
    Well, a watcher sees who targeted someone, not who that person targeted. So you could target anybody in the game and get a good sense of who the godfather is and isn't.

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    "What the f*** is gang-rape music?" - Cheddar Chap
    EnemyofJupitor
    HG Alumnus Superbus
    posted 05-09-09 02:19 AM EDT (US)     208 / 218       
    Scum are happy to lynch whoever isn't with them and get to night, as quickly as possible.
    Where you not playing during day 2?

    Immediately after I topped Cat's lynched the day before, I came under pressure for doing so. Thus, everyone had to toe the line and look like they were gathering as much info as possible to make an informed lynch. From then on it looked like everyone bar Julius because I had my suspicions due to other factors were townies. I didn't seriously think Ash and Nacht were a anti-town team until after I kicked it.

    And I shall go Softly into the Night Taking my Dreams As will You
    A Banned User
    Battle of the Forums EEH winning team
    posted 05-17-09 07:49 AM EDT (US)     209 / 218       
    Looking for players for my Vietnam Mafia over at EEH.

    "Banned is a beautiful, beautiful man. Visit BfME2H, EEH, or DoFH if you want to see more of this wonder." - Blatant
    "I'VE ABANDONED MY CHILD" - Ashrzr defending himself from paedophile charges.

    Scenario designer for Empire Earth and Empire Creations
    1st July 1916, The Somme (4.6), The Long Road to France (4.8) and A Place Called Waterloo (4.8)
    President of EEH, alongside Ashrzr (FILM DUDE!)
    Droideka_11
    Dúnadan
    posted 06-08-09 04:01 PM EDT (US)     210 / 218       
    I'm hosting a Mafia at EaW anyone is welcome to join

    Code Geass Mini-Mafia

    "Rot's given a free pass simply because he's Rot." - theferret
    Peter Fallon
    Dúnadan
    (id: Xzyiothe)
    posted 12-27-09 03:47 AM EDT (US)     211 / 218       
    So..

    You can put me up for a South Park Mini Mafia if the mafia community is still chugging.

    ☭ Long live the Turk ☭
    "Xzy is the worst parts of kman and legion combined, only with proper spelling so you know he's smart enough to act otherwise if he wasn't such an idiot." - theferret
    "Xzy is like all of the terrible Guardian contributors rolled into one person. Proof that you can genetically engineer a humanoid abomination." - Fiindil
    Rotaretilbo
    Dúnadan
    (id: Brandon Rebuga)
    posted 12-28-09 03:37 PM EDT (US)     212 / 218       
    It isn't. Moon Mafia stalled out just before finishing, and RotK has no end in sight.

    "Also, I'm no clearer on what WIFOM is really, although I gather it's something to do with Thymole being gay..." -Sassenach
    "I don't lie in my claims and I don't intend to." -WeeMicky
    "OH MY GOD A DINOSAUR" -Peter Fallon
    Peter Fallon
    Dúnadan
    (id: Xzyiothe)
    posted 12-29-09 03:33 AM EDT (US)     213 / 218       
    Well, to be fair. Neither Arvy or FoO are incredibly active these days.

    If there's demand for a game I don't mind going (assuming Moon mafia is dead / might as well be). If not, I'll wait until there's interest.

    ☭ Long live the Turk ☭
    "Xzy is the worst parts of kman and legion combined, only with proper spelling so you know he's smart enough to act otherwise if he wasn't such an idiot." - theferret
    "Xzy is like all of the terrible Guardian contributors rolled into one person. Proof that you can genetically engineer a humanoid abomination." - Fiindil
    Arvedui
    Messiah of Fail
    (id: ashwin13)
    posted 02-07-10 03:35 AM EDT (US)     214 / 218       
    You can probably remove Arvedui Mafia from the queue.

    "Arvy is randomly full of win." - Skarr
    |
    "I don't watch cartoons, those are for third class people." - Arvy
    "Yeah, children, those third class people." - Sails
    And because I bet Blatant he wouldn't be orange in two days and lost... HEIL BLATANT!
    Yeebaagooon
    EXCO Emeritus
    posted 02-07-10 05:21 AM EDT (US)     215 / 218       
    I'm hosting a Monty Python and the Holy Grail Mafia at HGMain.

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    Peter Fallon
    Dúnadan
    (id: Xzyiothe)
    posted 02-07-10 07:17 AM EDT (US)     216 / 218       
    We really need to ban these ad bots

    ☭ Long live the Turk ☭
    "Xzy is the worst parts of kman and legion combined, only with proper spelling so you know he's smart enough to act otherwise if he wasn't such an idiot." - theferret
    "Xzy is like all of the terrible Guardian contributors rolled into one person. Proof that you can genetically engineer a humanoid abomination." - Fiindil
    Cheddar Chap
    Dúnadan
    (id: The Cheese Man)
    posted 05-04-10 01:54 AM EDT (US)     217 / 218       
    SIGN UP FOR MY GOD DAMNED MAFIA GAME OR ELSE EOJ WILL BAN THE SHIT OUT OF YOU! ALSO, EOJ, SIGN UP FOR MY MAFIA OR AIR HUGH WILL BAN THE SHIT OUT OF YOU!


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    posted 02-18-11 02:49 PM EDT (US)     218 / 218       
    Need five more players for a great game at HeavenGames Main Mafia. Guarantee fun if you like Inception or mafia.

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